Schecter Van Nuys Serial Numbers
Jan 31, 2008 - I love this thing. I'm not really sure how old it is, serial number is S8334. The body and neck are from the original van nuys factory.
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Last month, had me thinking. Murkat Jay mentioned that the guitars were ' real close, but not close enough,' but that's the opinion of a guy who actually built Gibsons for a living (legitimately) for years. I looked the examples he cited and thought, 'Well, that would have fooled me.' But certainly I have been buying and selling long enough to say that I've seen it all at least twice. This couldn't happen to me. Ruki vverh seattle. In my usual eBay trolling I happen across a Nash Stratocaster.
I need another Stratocaster like I need another anus, but I look at it anyway. Ebay, in its infinite wisdom, suggests another Strat, and then another, until I'm looking at some, in which I have zero interest. Less than zero even, except that in one of the photos is a Schecter Tele. The Schecter is black with white binding. 21 frets on a birds-eye maple neck, Kent Armstrong pickups with inline controls. This isn't one of the Dallas era Schecters.
This is like Townshend used to play! As a, now I WAS interested! And what do you know? It's also for sale! The auction said so: ' We also have the Schecter Townshend Telecaster in stock which is also for sale.
Feel free to ask any questions.' Now, already the red flags are popping up in my head (and you already know with the benefit of my opening salvo where this is headed), but I ignore them. I ignored my own better judgement because I talked myself into the idea that it's possible I have come across a less-than-educated seller.
In our correspondence, he mentioned that ' the serial number is S8475, and it is in drop-dead excellent beautiful condition which makes me believe that it's not from the 1970's.' Well, now I think I know more than he does. After all, the 'S' serial numbered Schecters were made in Van Nuys, CA until 1983. After that, they moved to 22 fret necks and diagonal controls.
Well every Townshend fanboi knows that one of Pete's main stage guitars at the time was S8474! So, I inquire further,, I am quoted $1250 shipped (from Japan), and I call Serial Steve to check to see if my brain is working right. We look at the photos, say, 'Duuuude!'
To each other a few times and take a calculated risk that this HAS to be what it looks like. Never mind that the guitar looks Brand New in the photos. Never mind that the guy didn't have an auction for IT. Why not put it up for auction as well? Why just mention it in passing in a Squire Strat ad? I even said to Steve, 'This could be the perfect confidence scam here. He throws the line out and I'm taking the bait.
I'm almost asking to be taken for a ride here.' Then Steve made a good point, 'Why forge a freaking Schecter guitar? Kent Armstrong pickups, birds-eye maple neck, shipping from Japan. How much profit could he be looking to make off of this? If it's a scam, it's a pretty stupid one.'
So, I take the bait and tell the seller,, who has 100% feedback, that I'll take the guitar. Serial recommends that I avoid the PayPal Gift route and offer to add the PayPal fees, requesting an invoice from the seller. Sound advice, indeed, and I followed it. Good thing, too. The guitar arrives, and very quickly, I might add. The first thing I do is clip off the strings and pop the neck off of the body,. I knew immediately one of two things: either this neck has never been separated from this body, or they were just put together a few days ago.
The wood chips from the wiring route (made from the neck pocket) told me that the latter was more likely. I popped out the pickups.
Kent Armstrong for sure, but the wax was still on them. And this hardware has never been used - ever. There wasn't even string marks on the bridge saddles. So, was this all new hardware and electronics on repainted wood? The neck heel and neck pocket in the body were both branded - with an iron - 'SCHECTER,' but there were no serial numbers or pencil marks of any kind. This didn't look right either, but the question remained: Why forge a Schecter?? Why not forge something more valuable?
I post the photos and a much shortened version of the above story on the Gear Page and ask the musical question: What the Hell do I have here? One very helpful Gear Page member sent me photos of what I was supposed to be seeing in the neck pocket and on the neck heel. He even asked if I had gotten it from tommyguitars in Japan. Yeah, now I feel foolish. Of course, this was a fake. I knew what it was supposed to look like. I've had a half a dozen Schecter PTs before, but they were Dallas era Schecters.
Maybe the Van Nuys era ones were different. This one's just bogus. Was this knowingly passed on to me or was this an honest mistake by the seller? Right about this time, Serial's words are banging around inside my head, ' Pay the fees. Otherwise you have no recourse if this is a fake.' I email the seller. Ken Sounds reasonable and courteous enough, but what's wrong with this picture?